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Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :(
Posted by Randy Haskin on Sun Dec 21, 2003 09:37:07 PM
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Hi all...I'm not a regular reader of this board (although I will be starting now!). I posted the following story on another warbirds message board and someone who read it asked me to re-tell it here....so here goes my sad tale!
I am (or was up until very recently) a USAF F-15E pilot (now a T-38C instructor pilot). I was deployed during IRAQI FREEDOM earlier this year and flew combat missions during the duration of the "major combat" portion. The F-15E is primarily a bomb-dropper....sort of like the old F-4 Phantom II "all-weather day/night fighter-bomber -- mostly bomber".
One day after I'd flown a mission I was sitting in the Intel shop filling out some paperwork. I heard some aircrew in the next room over reviewing their HUD film for the Intel debrief of a mission they'd just flown. They had apparently been flying SCAR near the Balad SE airfield just north of Baghdad. SCAR (or Strike Coordination and Reconnaissance) without getting too detailed, is basically a poor man's "Fast FAC" Forward Air Controller, where we go into a target area, find our own targets for our own ordnance, then find targets for other strikers in the area.
Well, this formation had been flying SCAR near Balad SE and had run across a number of airplanes dispersed out into a field. They had destroyed 4 or 5 of them with GBU-12 500-pound laser guided bombs, but neither they nor the "intelligence" folks cound figure out what type of aircraft they were.
So, the Intel officer knew that I was a bit of an old airplane freak, and poked his head around the corner, asking me to come look at the tape.
As they played back the tape, the first thing I saw was a Hawker Hunter getting speared with a laser guided bomb. I told the Intel officer that's what I thought it was, then filled him in that I was pretty sure the Hunter had been one of thge main Iraqi fighters before they got their fleet of MiGs. "Hey, you guys know that this isn't a MiG, right? It's British..." They just sort of looked at me blankly and said, "yeah, but it's an Iraqi fighter, so we hit it." The tape kept rolling and I watched yet another Hunter bite the dust.
The pilot who'd flown the mission piped up, "It's this next one that's really weird, though...it looks like a big prop plane of some sort."
So, the next thing that flashes up on the screen, sure enough, is a Sea Fury. The tape continues to roll as my eyes light up..."Hey, cool, that's a Sea Fury!" It appears to be a 2-seater and is sitting there intact. For a moment I take mental note that it's at the Balad SE airfield and wonder if, in a postwar Iraq, there would be any way of me getting up there to claim that thing! I start explaining to the pilots and intel guys what kind of airplane it is when I see on screen that another 500-pound laser guided bomb sails right into the Fury, destroying it in a large explosion.
"WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT FOR?!?" I was stunned, seeing such a thing obliterated. My reaction was a little funny, especially considering on my own tape I had just watched my own bombs destroying a MiG-23 and a Su-17, and hadn't thought twice about it. But this....a Sea Fury....that was sacrilegious!
The pilot, obviously not grasping the value of a warbird in the same way that I was, just shrugged, and said, "hey, it was an airplane....it might be able to carry WMD, right?"
I marched over to the closest computer and pulled up some photos of Dreadnought...I called the guys over and said "This is what you guys just destroyed." Only then did they sort of grasp things, but I still think that they really didn't care in the grand scheme of things.
C'est La Guerre....
Follow Ups:
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Al Moore Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:08:01 PM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Jagan Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:14:46 PM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 05:53:57 AM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Tony Mon Dec 22, 2003 06:23:02 AM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Tony Mon Dec 22, 2003 06:24:27 AM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Jagan Mon Dec 22, 2003 07:03:33 AM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Tony Mon Dec 22, 2003 06:23:02 AM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 05:53:57 AM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Jagan Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:14:46 PM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Jim Church Mon Dec 22, 2003 04:49:26 AM
- Thanks! - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:52:59 AM
- Re: Thanks! - T J Johansen Tue Dec 23, 2003 01:04:16 PM
- Thanks! - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:52:59 AM
- Oh for Pete's sake - Jim _angry right now_ Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:09:09 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:54:09 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Tim Savage Mon Dec 22, 2003 01:01:14 PM
- Roger That! (N/T) - B Darnell Mon Dec 22, 2003 01:37:17 PM
- Re: Roger That! (N/T) - Dick Phillips Mon Dec 22, 2003 02:27:52 PM
- Jimmy - Tulio Mon Dec 22, 2003 02:51:07 PM
- Re: Jimmy... I meant, Randy! nt - Tulio Mon Dec 22, 2003 02:53:43 PM
- Jimmy - Tulio Mon Dec 22, 2003 02:51:07 PM
- Re: Roger That! (N/T) - Dick Phillips Mon Dec 22, 2003 02:27:52 PM
- Roger That! (N/T) - B Darnell Mon Dec 22, 2003 01:37:17 PM
- Thanks for this Randy... - Mike Henniger Mon Dec 22, 2003 01:09:16 PM
- Surprisingly I'm not really Furious about this! - Steve T Mon Dec 22, 2003 04:10:46 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Tim Savage Mon Dec 22, 2003 01:01:14 PM
- for my own sake - JimH Mon Dec 22, 2003 01:46:11 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Brad Mon Dec 22, 2003 06:52:48 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 08:34:51 PM
- Eeeh Brad,.............. - Cees Broere Tue Dec 23, 2003 05:44:35 AM
- Cees, you'd be surprised - JACK COOK Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:40:30 AM
- Re: Cees, you'd be surprised - Brad Tue Dec 23, 2003 01:37:11 PM
- Re: Cees, you'd be surprised - Cees Broere Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:26:08 AM
- Re: Cees, you'd be surprised - Brad Tue Dec 23, 2003 01:37:11 PM
- Cees, you'd be surprised - JACK COOK Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:40:30 AM
- What WMD??!! N/T - Elliott Tue Dec 23, 2003 05:36:07 PM
- Nobody ever thought we would find Hussein either! - Brad Wed Dec 24, 2003 01:53:21 AM
- Re: Nobody ever thought we would find Hussein either! - Tulio Wed Dec 24, 2003 04:26:49 AM
- Nobody ever thought we would find Hussein either! - Brad Wed Dec 24, 2003 01:53:21 AM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - JACK COOK Mon Dec 22, 2003 07:35:34 PM
- Thank you JACK COOK, Randy - Angry Jim Mon Dec 22, 2003 09:37:47 PM
- Re: Thank you JACK COOK, Randy - Jim Church Mon Dec 22, 2003 09:54:02 PM
- Re: Thank you JACK COOK, Randy - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:20:09 PM
- Re: Thank you JACK COOK, Randy - Scott WRG Editor Tue Dec 23, 2003 06:26:30 AM
- Amen! n/t - Mike Henniger Tue Dec 23, 2003 07:18:43 AM
- For the next generation... - Steve T Tue Dec 23, 2003 02:21:49 PM
- Lives Saved - Mick Tue Dec 23, 2003 06:54:57 PM
- Re: Thank you JACK COOK, Randy - Jim Church Mon Dec 22, 2003 09:54:02 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Jeff Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:15:34 PM
- Thank you JACK COOK, Randy - Angry Jim Mon Dec 22, 2003 09:37:47 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Jeff Mon Dec 22, 2003 09:54:21 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Scott WRG Editor Tue Dec 23, 2003 06:33:06 AM
- But a Warbird?!?!?! - Olivier Lacombe Tue Dec 23, 2003 05:05:45 PM
- Re: But a Warbird?!?!?! - Scott WRG Editor Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:55:29 PM
- Agreed! - Olivier Lacombe Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:07:36 PM
- Re: But a Warbird?!?!?! - Tony C Wed Dec 24, 2003 06:39:50 AM
- Re: But a Warbird?!?!?! - Olivier Lacombe Wed Dec 24, 2003 05:56:35 PM
- Re: But a Warbird?!?!?! - Jeff Wed Dec 24, 2003 11:13:54 AM
- Re: But a Warbird?!?!?! - Scott WRG Editor Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:55:29 PM
- But a Warbird?!?!?! - Olivier Lacombe Tue Dec 23, 2003 05:05:45 PM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Scott WRG Editor Tue Dec 23, 2003 06:33:06 AM
- Re: Oh for Pete's sake - Randy Haskin Mon Dec 22, 2003 12:54:09 PM
- Re: Sea Fury in Iraq...bites the dust :( - Scott WRG Editor Mon Dec 22, 2003 09:23:07 PM
- I have read this post with interest and... - Tony C Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:36:18 PM
- Fury and WMD - Angry Jim Tue Dec 23, 2003 05:42:34 PM
- The real reason the "Harmless" Fury was destroyed... - Reno Watcher Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:21:48 PM
- Fury and WMD - Angry Jim Tue Dec 23, 2003 05:42:34 PM