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Re: Engines availability

Posted by Ron Henry on Tue May 14, 2002 01:25:14 PM

In reply top Re: Engines availability posted by Mikael on Tue May 14, 2002 01:19:35 PM

: There were storage depots all around europe for several ye
: ars after the war, probably into the fifties. The spanisar
: ds almost made a deal for some 500 Jumo 211 engines and V-
: 11 propellers located in Stetin, Poland. The deal was brok
: ered through sweden in 1949 with the knowledge of Russian
: authourities. A workshop was set up in Stockholm with span
: ish people who would check the engines prior to shippment
: to spain. The sale was hindered by the POlish ambassador w
: ho notified UN which denounced the sale because of the iso
: lation of Spain. Later on some Jumos were bought from depo
: ts in France.
:
: I know the Swedish air force searched depots in frnace, de
: nmark and norway for spare parts for the sole Do 24 in swe
: dish service. Unfortunately they didn't find any parts so
: it was taken out of service in the mid -50's.
:
: It would be interesting to see photos and information on t
: hese depots that obviously exsisted quite far into 50's an
: d later.
:
: /Mikael

Mmmm.....interesting. I can't remember what engines the Do24 had, but the Spanish managed to keep 3 of their boats going until c 1970.


:
:
: : : Hi all,
: : :
: : : It never ceases to amaze me where aiframes and/or part
: s
: : ar
: : : e found all over the globe. What aiframe parts cannot
: be
: : s
: : : ourced they can be made anew.
: : :
: : : The situation concerning engines is completely differe
: nt
: : .
: : : Although there is a reasonable supply of Merlin and Al
: li
: : so
: : : n V1710 engines as well as a good supply of the Americ
: an
: : r
: : : adials, examples of German/Italian and Japanese engine
: s
: : ar
: : : e very much in short supply.
: : :
: : : Regarding German aircraft projects using V-12 engines
: th
: : er
: : : e is a general trend to use an original engine. Buchon
: s
: : ar
: : : e being re-engined using DB601/603/605 series if avail
: ab
: : le
: : : . The chances that such an engine could be located is
: ba
: : se
: : : d purely on luck (I think) and a large bankaccount nee
: de
: : d
: : : to acquire one.
: : :
: : : The Daimler Benz for instance was built under license
: in
: : S
: : : weden, Italy, Hungary, but as you know the Daimler Ben
: z
: : en
: : : gines are extremely rare especially airworthy ones of
: wh
: : ic
: : : h you need at least two.
: : :
: : : What I am curious about is:
: : :
: : : Are there still sources somewhere where examples of th
: e
: : Ge
: : : rman V-12's (DB and Jumo) can still be found in reason
: ab
: : le
: : : condition and used for airworthy projects. I know tha
: t
: : Ru
: : : ssia has supplied a lot of engines in the past few yea
: rs
: : a
: : : nd I have seen two BMW 801's at North Weald some years
: a
: : go
: : : which looked in very good condition, but can engines
: ly
: : in
: : : g in the open for fifty years still be considered suit
: ab
: : le
: : : for overhaul and installation in an airworthy aicraft
: .
: : :
: : : Where can good potentially airworthy Germans V-12's st
: il
: : l
: : : be found?
: : :
: : : Your views please
: : :
: : : Cheers
: : :
: : : Cees
: :
: :
: : As for DB60? engines (ie 109 engines) ........ what abou
: t
: : the countries that continued to use the type postwar? Is
: ra
: : el and Czechoslovakia come to mind (weren't those 109s b
: ui
: : lt as Avia something-or-others?). Fw 190 engines - didn'
: t
: : Turkey use some alongside other fighters? Personally, al
: th
: : ough I haven't been there, I somehow don't visualise Tur
: ke
: : y as the most accessible country.
: :
: : What happened at the sites in Germany where the Allies s
: cr
: : apped the Luftwaffe? How was it done - running bulldoze
: rs
: : over the aircraft and burying the scrap? Immediately po
: st
: : war, surely Germany didn't have the facilities to handle
: t
: : ens of thousands of tons of alu scrap, nor do I think th
: ey
: : had a need for it.
: :

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