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Re: Engines availability

Posted by Mikael on Tue May 14, 2002 01:19:35 PM

In reply top Re: Engines availability posted by Ron Henry on Tue May 14, 2002 01:02:15 PM

There were storage depots all around europe for several years after the war, probably into the fifties. The spanisards almost made a deal for some 500 Jumo 211 engines and V-11 propellers located in Stetin, Poland. The deal was brokered through sweden in 1949 with the knowledge of Russian authourities. A workshop was set up in Stockholm with spanish people who would check the engines prior to shippment to spain. The sale was hindered by the POlish ambassador who notified UN which denounced the sale because of the isolation of Spain. Later on some Jumos were bought from depots in France.

I know the Swedish air force searched depots in frnace, denmark and norway for spare parts for the sole Do 24 in swedish service. Unfortunately they didn't find any parts so it was taken out of service in the mid -50's.

It would be interesting to see photos and information on these depots that obviously exsisted quite far into 50's and later.

/Mikael


: : Hi all,
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: : It never ceases to amaze me where aiframes and/or parts
: ar
: : e found all over the globe. What aiframe parts cannot be
: s
: : ourced they can be made anew.
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: : The situation concerning engines is completely different
: .
: : Although there is a reasonable supply of Merlin and Alli
: so
: : n V1710 engines as well as a good supply of the American
: r
: : adials, examples of German/Italian and Japanese engines
: ar
: : e very much in short supply.
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: : Regarding German aircraft projects using V-12 engines th
: er
: : e is a general trend to use an original engine. Buchons
: ar
: : e being re-engined using DB601/603/605 series if availab
: le
: : . The chances that such an engine could be located is ba
: se
: : d purely on luck (I think) and a large bankaccount neede
: d
: : to acquire one.
: :
: : The Daimler Benz for instance was built under license in
: S
: : weden, Italy, Hungary, but as you know the Daimler Benz
: en
: : gines are extremely rare especially airworthy ones of wh
: ic
: : h you need at least two.
: :
: : What I am curious about is:
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: : Are there still sources somewhere where examples of the
: Ge
: : rman V-12's (DB and Jumo) can still be found in reasonab
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: : condition and used for airworthy projects. I know that
: Ru
: : ssia has supplied a lot of engines in the past few years
: a
: : nd I have seen two BMW 801's at North Weald some years a
: go
: : which looked in very good condition, but can engines ly
: in
: : g in the open for fifty years still be considered suitab
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: : for overhaul and installation in an airworthy aicraft.
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: : Where can good potentially airworthy Germans V-12's stil
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: : be found?
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: : Your views please
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: : Cheers
: :
: : Cees
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:
: As for DB60? engines (ie 109 engines) ........ what about
: the countries that continued to use the type postwar? Isra
: el and Czechoslovakia come to mind (weren't those 109s bui
: lt as Avia something-or-others?). Fw 190 engines - didn't
: Turkey use some alongside other fighters? Personally, alth
: ough I haven't been there, I somehow don't visualise Turke
: y as the most accessible country.
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: What happened at the sites in Germany where the Allies scr
: apped the Luftwaffe? How was it done - running bulldozers
: over the aircraft and burying the scrap? Immediately post
: war, surely Germany didn't have the facilities to handle t
: ens of thousands of tons of alu scrap, nor do I think they
: had a need for it.
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