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Brilliant reply Tony, N/T

Posted by Richard Allnutt on Fri Apr 26, 2002 10:19:39 AM

In reply top Re: Stop whingeing posted by Tony on Fri Apr 26, 2002 07:10:58 AM

: No Paul, I didn't say ALL museums were bad, and I wasn't t
: rying to get my OWN way, I wasn't getting anything apart f
: rom expenses, fuel, telephone calls etc from this deal. Th
: e important fact was, that the aircraft was required for a
: collection, where it would have been absolutely right, an
: d the aircraft offered in exchange, was very very importan
: t, the entire deal, was based on "Fair exchange is no robb
: ery" However, the distinct impression I was left with, was
: that while they were more than happy to have us DONATE th
: e important airframe, they did not want to let an aircraft
: go, which bore absolutly no relevance to their theme or c
: ollection, and which had originally been obtained, to make
: up the numbers.Any way, I am now talking to the real powe
: r behind the throne on this particular aircraft, so, with
: any luck, 2 very important exchanges will happen.
:
: As regards your comments about joint ownership of a warbir
: d, and it being Naive in the extreme? What gives you the r
: ight, to critcize, especially, when I didn't notice any in
: put from you at the time? So a syndicate formed, with shar
: es offered to bring an aircraft in from the cold, is unrea
: listic? Several warbird owners contributed to the thread,
: and the overriding theme, was "start small, and make that
: work" so the scheme in itself, isn't an impossibily, or ar
: e you saying that syndicates based on donations and shares
: don't work? Oh well, let me phone CAF , and tell them, th
: eir entire scheme doesn't work.
:
: Imagination and enthusiasm, are the 2 things that drive th
: is movement forward. Would you criticize Elliott for tryin
: g to bring a Whitley back from the dead, or me and Phil an
: d Tom and Dave and Mick and Paul et al for trying to get a
: Whirlwind built?
:
: As for critcizing the way museums run their affairs, have
: you been down to Staverton lately? Have you been to Sandto
: ft? There are UK museums, that "make do and mend" and are
: important. There are other Uk museums, that do have fundin
: g through careful house management etc., and there are oth
: er so called museums, who frankly, you wouldn't trust with
: the household budget, never mind preserving important air
: frames.
:
: I think the problem that infuriates Richard, is that here
: he is , with the substantial remains of a Tirpitz lanc, an
: d no one he has spoken to thus far is interested, includin
: g one museum, that told him "We don't want the place looki
: ng like a scrapyard" Hmmmmmm I like my museums to have a s
: crapyard bit, it emphasises to the punters, just how they
: turn bits of metal, back into exhibits.
:
: You mention being a donor to several UK museums, is that f
: inancially, or in terms of parts/exhibits? If so, well don
: e Paul, but, please don't criticize people, for having dre
: ams and ambitions, or at least, if you must do so, then tr
: y and do so in a positive fashion, or at least, if , as yo
: u seem to imply, you have a great deal of experience in th
: is field, then please try and act in the spirit of the boa
: rd, i.e. contribute.
:
: Tony :0)
:
:
:
: : You didn't get your own way in a deal once, therefore al
: l
: : Museums are bad???
: :
: : I for one am proud of what UK aviation Museums have achi
: ev
: : ed and am pleased to be a donor to several of them. Do y
: ou
: : really think that the large majority of Museums in the
: UK
: : wouldn't give their right arm to have a Lanc in their c
: ol
: : lection???
: :
: : Given how the discussion went for joint ownership of a w
: ar
: : bird a few months back (i.e. naive in the extreme), I th
: in
: : k it is extremely rich of folks on this board to sit on
: th
: : eir high horses and criticise how others manage their fi
: na
: : ncial affairs.
: :
: : Enthusiasm and imagination are wonderful things but some
: ti
: : mes they do need to be tempered with a dose of reality.

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