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Yes really
Posted by Tony on Tue Dec 04, 2001 09:48:07 PM
In reply top Well, not really ...... posted by Christer on Tue Dec 04, 2001 06:52:10 PM
This is one of those conversations, that will go round in circles forever. Everyone has their own opinion, and this particular curates egg, will just go on and on and on and on and on and on like the fu*@#ng Energizer Bunny.
I am not for one second , criticizing anyone elses's point of view. I'd just like people, to rein up hard and THINK. Paul has already said, this arguement, has been going on in the classic car trade for ages. A friend of mine, has restored an XJS LeMans edition Jaguar. It is an absolutely beeautiful car, with full provenance, and was little more than a rolling hulk when he got it. www.topcatsjags.co.uk
(Yes he is a client) it is being sold, for a fraction of what it could probably fetch, why? Because Richard is a purist, and as he says "I can't sell it as an original, but I can sell it, for it's paperwork, my labour and the parts"
In other words, he doesn't end up arguing the toss, all day and all night, about what is original and what is not. It's a Silk Cut XJS with a history at the right price -ENDE.
He's happy he sold the car, the punters happy, he's got a TWR sanctioned Jag, for the right money, and still has the "pose" value of "provenance".
If someone says to me, do you want to buy and fly this high-performance aircraft, with 50% of the original 60 year old parts still in it, and treat it, like it just rolled out of Burbank/Castle Vale/Wichita.. My answer will be "Get stuffed"
I want it covered in new duraluminim, I want new rivets, I want to know the frames are replaced, and the enginebearers, and i sure as hell, want to know the mainspar left GKN steel yesterday. it's the buyers life, not the sellers. Yes, you can put the seat from the original aeroplane in it, even the data plate if u so wish, though it's not essential. The buzz for me, if it was an historic a/c, is knowing my butt was sat on the same chair, that some pilot went to war in, in the same TYPE of aircraft.
Paul said FLYING aircraft.Flying aircraft demand the very best and most up to date parts. It's incredible, we're all arguing about what is original in a warbird, and very few of us, would climb into a 60 year old Cessna, and fly it, if the owner told us, it was 99% original.
We also seem to have forgotten, that most of these aircraft, have had to had major modifications, in their lives, that include service and civilian mods, in the interests of Pilot safety and airframe efficiency.Some of these MOds, have been quite dramatic, and in the interests of safety and efficiency, have already reduced an airframes originality.
Look at it this way..... if it is flying it is not original.endof.It can't be, because then, it wouldn't be safe.
The only "original" untampered with, unmodded aircraft, are in museums, and as i have said before, we all know which airframes they are
Tony
(really tired of this)
: ...... I don?t believe for a milli-second that this is the
: last time that this subject is on the agenda.
: Just scroll down a few pages and you find the thread "Was:
: Beware parts consolidation" which is closely related. The
: re were a few thoughts that contained different approaches
: to the subject and Micks posting is worthy of recapturing
: .
: Mick, I hope You don?t mind!?
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