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Re: Aero Vintage Hawker biplanes info direct from Guy Black
Posted by Mikael Olrog on Fri May 09, 2003 10:42:12 AM
In reply top Aero Vintage Hawker biplanes info direct from Guy Black posted by Guy Black on Fri May 09, 2003 06:58:27 AM
Now I remembered the question I had regarding the identity of the Swedish Hawker Hart that you have.
According to Swedish aviation litterature Sweden bought the first three aircraft from England and called them B4 while the rest were built on licence and labelled B4A or B4B.
Would Hawker issue numbers like 41H/428 to airframes built on licence abroad? And would that number really be physically attached to the aircframe when it doesn't fill any purpose to the Swedish manufacturer or the Swedish air force operating it since they both have their own s/n to identify them.
What I'm wondering is if the machine really is a B4A built on license in Sweden or if it is one of the original three B4 imported from england. The number 3 you mention could fit in with it being one of the imported examples, or it could also be the third example built in Sweden.
I know this is a bit nitpicking, but it would be of great interest for me (and other Swedish aviation enthusiasts) to know wich individual that really have survived.
I'm happy it has been recovered and hope that it one day will be restored.
Best whishes
/Mikael
: The Fury is not a replica. Confusion maybe with the ex-Pa
: trick Lindsay/Lands End repro, owned now by the Robert Lan
: duit estate and never by us.
:
: Our Fury came from South Africa, and was the result of sev
: eral expeditions searching for and acquiring Hawker biplan
: e parts from farms and scrap yards. We had a container fu
: ll in quantity, and this included the remains of three Fur
: ys, substantial remains of an Osprey and numerous Hartbees
: parts (there is a very good example of the Hartbees in th
: e South African Military Museum). The Fury, which is the
: subject of a rebuild, should be completed by the summer of
: 2004; it is well advanced. Delay in announcing it was to
: ensure a) that we were able to achieve what we wanted (to
: o many projects are mainly a mixture of hot air and wild i
: magination), and b) we wanted to establish the RAF identit
: y. This was only partly successful as panels indicated it
: was aircraft ?74? ? we assume this to be K-5674, but do no
: t know for sure. Anyone with further knowledge perhaps ev
: en tying up the Hawker ?41/H? serials with RAF serials, co
: uld perhaps advance our knowledge on this.
:
: We have as also, as correctly identified, Hawker Audax K-5
: 600, Hawker Hind L-7181, Nimrod II K-3661 and Swedish Hart
: B4A Build No. 3 (Hawker number 41H/428). They are all fa
: irly advanced in the restoration queue, though the latter
: aircraft is not yet registered. We are waiting until we ca
: n be sure it is a practical proposition to rebuild the Har
: t, as there is no engine, though we know of a good one, bu
: t available only in a trade we cannot yet meet. The Ospre
: y will not be rebuilt as there is not enough of the airfra
: me ? perhaps more parts will come to light one day; howeve
: r, we do not have limitless resources and it is unlikely t
: o be rebuilt by us.
:
: A full article will appear on our activities in a future e
: dition of one of the UK historic aircraft journals.
:
: Guy Black