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Re: More questions at the bottom . I will respond N/T.....
Posted by PeterA on Thu Oct 24, 2002 07:55:09 AM
In reply top More questions at the bottom ...... posted by Christer on Thu Oct 24, 2002 07:27:30 AM
: : Christer,
: : What I said was - '2.4 x the number of the initial estim
: at
: : e of the potential purchaser'. That is difference that t
: he
: : customer 'thought' it might cost or time it might take
: in
: : itially compared to the actual, not what he was quoted b
: y
: : the rebuilder/restorer.
:
: I thought that but I wanted to get it from You that the bu
: siness isn?t as bad as one might be lead to believe!
:
: : Despite what Mick from Australia has posted subsequently
: ,
: : nobody in the UK got too 'fat' on rebuilding Spitfires a
: nd
: : other Warbirds. History shows a trail of small business
: es
: : that have failed or gone through very lean times over t
: he
: : past twenty plus years.
: : The fact is that in pure engineering terms, and speaking
: f
: : or Spitfires, they are grossly undervalued for the compl
: ex
: : ity and magnitude of the engineering. You just cannot re
: bu
: : ild this amount of complexity, with all the requirements
: o
: : f the CAA, with realistic hourly labour rates and make a
: v
: : iable business case. Some of the results of those who cu
: t
: : corners in the endeavour are the subject of this forum,
: in
: : suffucient inpsection checks, insufficient investment in
: j
: : igs and fixtures, work being re-done for the second and
: th
: : ird time etc.
:
: I must say that I was surprised to see freshly rebuilt war
: birds being sold directly into the new owners workshops!
:
: : For my part I have encouraged several of the small busin
: es
: : ses to sharpen up and have provided Project Management
: Te
: : chnicques from the 'prototyping' motor industry, to cont
: ro
: : l and monitor these projects and give the customer more
: co
: : nfidence.
:
: You mention Project Management Techniques, has that someth
: ing to do with ISO, as I suggested in my reply to Dan?
:
: : Some will disagree I am sure but if the the people prote
: ct
: : ing customers at the very top of the wealth tier from b
: ei
: : ng 'ripped off' only had the vision to see that paying t
: he
: : full market value would open up the market below and th
: ei
: : r own investments would surge forward as happened in the
: 1
: : 980's.
: : Peter
:
: In WW-NETWORK, winter 1993, there was a Spitfire advertise
: d for sale with a guaranteed airframe rebuild labour cost
: at ?290,000
: Would it be fair to estimate systems, spares and supplies
: at the approximately same cost?
: What?s the estimate for a Merlin/Griffon rebuild including
: the propeller?
:
: (I?m possibly sticking my nose where it doesn?t belong but
: , it?s been red-ish before!)
:
: Christer