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Jagan, further on the Indian Emil...

Posted by Lynn on Mon Aug 26, 2002 11:32:05 AM

Dave Wadman put this up over on my site The 109 Lair; Paul forwarded me the engine numbers as you'd found them, would you be so kind as to see if any of the info that Dave has come up with jibes with your info:

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Dave Wadman
If that 109E is 4034...........................
Mon Aug 26 11:25:10 2002
24.70.25.11

Some of you may find the following info of interest:

W.Nr.4034 Bf109E-1 'Blk.6+' of the 8.JG/53 force landed at Lower Herdres, Kent on the morning of 2/11/40. The pilot, Fw.Xavier Ray was made P/W. Believed shot down by a Spitfire of either 74 or 92 Sqn.

The CEAR for this aircraft reads as follows:

"Report No.3/139 Me 109 crashed on 2/11/40 at 0905hrs near Lower Hardres. Map reference R.5601. Markings 6+I. All in black outlined white. Camouflage yellow dappled green grey all over. Vertical red band 10" wide round centre of engine cowling. Spinner red without usual hole at the tip. Airframe made by Focke-Wulf, Bremen in 1939. Works number 4034. Engine D.B.601 Work number 10256. Made by D.B. Genshagen.
Cause of crash of this aircraft is not known but pilot made very good belly landing and aircraft is practically intact. No trace of bullet strikes or engine overheating but cause of landing may have been engine failure. Armament, 4 M.G. 17s; no ammunition used. Armour: fuselage cross bulkhead fitted and head protection with curved head shield. Pilot prisoner."

And from the interrogation report:

"2/11/40 Street End, Canterbury. Fw. Xavier Ray, Me 109E, ?Black 6?, red spinner, yellow cowling and rudder, 8./JG 53. The mission was a free-lance patrol to the outskirts of London and the identity of the unit was obtained by interrogation but this pilot was already known to this section from a combat report dated 27/9/40 in which it was claimed he shot down two British aircraft, the witness to this was Oblt. Fiel who himself was shot down on 2/10/40. AIK report 680/1940. The pilot made a forced landing in a ploughed field owing to engine trouble on the inward flight to London. He stated that his aircraft, Works number 4034 had given trouble yesterday, and although repairs had been carried out, it was not running well when he started off today. He said that although his aircraft was fitted for bombing he did not carry bombs and that the racks were going to be removed because they slowed the aircraft down. His morale was high and he would say very little but is probably reliable. He was extremely annoyed that his aircraft had let him down."

Hope that you find this of interest

Dave
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One other interesting note about the above... a Messerschmitt made by Focke Wulf? ;)

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